Sunday, December 30, 2012
Answering Anti-Gay Drivel. Yahoo News today carried a story about a lesbian in NYC who is challenging the refusal of the IRS to grant her a marital deduction on the estate of her lesbian wife, whom she married legally in Canada. As usual, the comments after that story were filled with vile, antihomosexual propaganda. I took some time to answer some of them, and thought the readers of this blog might like to see what I said, both as an example of someone fiting the fools and as models for arguments they can use in their own encounters with bigots, online, in person, or wherever. Here are the remarks that do not depend on the context.
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There is no such thing as a "gay woman" any more than there is a "male lesbian". The two things are nothing alike, and require two different terms.
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Society CAN draw lines, even if you can't.
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Reported as abuse. AIDS does not "spread" from person to person, any more than any other DRUG INJURY does.
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And your qualifications for determing who is sick? None.
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Plainly you believe that unless homosexuality is unlawful, EVERYONE will ditch heterosexuality. Not much confidence in your team, have you? The world is OVERpopulated, not UNDERpopulated, and legalizing homosexuality and lesbianism everywhere might just SAVE this planet that straight people are DESTROYING.
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There is no God, so if your only argument is God, you HAVE NO ARGUMENT.
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Your violent antihomosexual fantasies suggest you need to be confined in a mental institution and subjected to, for instance, electroshock therapy to rid you of your extreme anxieties about homosexuality, and your baseless hatred for people who have never done you any harm. As for your bestelling novel, the "Bible", it is nothing but fiction. And if the Bible is your only argument, YOU HAVE NO ARGUMENT.
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Hurricane/Superstorm Sandy was a judgment of God? Against millions and millions of people of all sorts of religions? How about all those tornadoes that strike trailer parks in redneck country and kill YOUR people? Are they judgments of God too? There is something very wrong with someone who wants to believe in a Monster God.
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You are completely ignorant, as your remark about all gay relationships being role-structured proves beyond contention. NO, THEY ARE NOT! Well-adjusted gay men REFUSE imitation heterosexuality and REJECT role-playing. You know NOTHING but what you read from other bigots, and your "statistics" are fabrications. How do we know? Because nobody knows who is and is not homosexual. The Census asks no such question, so all "studies" are fictitious.
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She wants the Govt to take no more than it would take if she were the widow of a MAN.
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Pls prove the existence of God. Then prove the existence of hell. Then prove that you know who will and will not go to hell for which offenses. You are living a life of delusion. Seek professional help.
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She is willing to pay whatever a widow of a MAN would pay, and not one cent more. You have a problem with that because you are a bigot. Tuf on you.
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There are straight drama queens and gay drama queens. There is absolutely no relationship between a flair for or concern with drama or theater, and homosexuality or lesbianism. Pls rid yourself of your stereotypes and learn to embrace the REAL world.
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AIDS is not a disease. Govt keeps talking about HIV, which is NOT AIDS and follows different paths and has different characteristics on different continents, so is not a disease.
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Your argument is called "reductio ad absurdum". It is called "absurd[um]" because it is ridiculous. That YOU may not be able to draw distinctions and make sensible laws does not mean that society is as inadequate as you are.
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Nonsense. If she had to pay that much, then there is surely MUCH more that she does NOT have to pay. She has plenty of money. What she does not have is the rights of a widow, and that is what she wants.
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We will hide our sexual orientation if straight people will also hide theirs and we never have to see them kissing or holding hands on the street or on TV or in the movies. BUT if hets won't hide, we won't either. You don't like that? Well, isn't that sad for you?!
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This story is about marital rights, not tax rates. But let's talk a bit about tax FAIRNESS, something that plainly doesn't concern you. You would have the poor pay the same rate as the rich. That is called "regressive" taxation, and it is an unalloyed EVIL, a moral disgrace. You should be ashamed of yourself.
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Strange how "conservatives" repudiate THAT part of the Declaration of Independence ["pursuit of happiness"], isn't it?
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Stop making up fake "facts". NONE of those people [Hitler, Mussolini, and Tojo] was gay.
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Gay people do NOT shove anybody's face in anything. How many homosexual kisses do you see on television and in movies and on the street? How many heterosexual very-public displays of affection? Who is shoving WHOSE face in WHAT?
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No, you are not [discriminated against for being a "white, middle-class, hetrosexual, married male"], and everybody knows you are not, so why are you exposing yourself as a liar? People whose lies are manifest but continue to lie are called "pathological".
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You are a psychotic anarchist if you really think government does not have the right to tax. Anarchists are very dangerous, and should be watched. Pls post your full name and address so the FBI and Homeland Security can keep tabs on you.
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You are not the arbiter of sin.
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If a straight civil union can be called "marriage", then so can a gay civil union or lesbian civil union. If it walks like a duck ... There is NOTHING destructive about calls for gay marriage, any more than there was in calls to extend the vote to blacks.
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Keep your bearded-man-in-the-sky nonsense to yourself. There IS NO GOD.
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True Christians believe one thing above all others. It is usually, in English, phrased as "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." Think about it. Really THINK about it, and you will see that homosexuals are the only people who follow that to the letter.
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There is no such thing as a "gay woman" any more than there is a "male lesbian". The two things are nothing alike, and require two different terms.
*
Society CAN draw lines, even if you can't.
*
Reported as abuse. AIDS does not "spread" from person to person, any more than any other DRUG INJURY does.
*
And your qualifications for determing who is sick? None.
*
Plainly you believe that unless homosexuality is unlawful, EVERYONE will ditch heterosexuality. Not much confidence in your team, have you? The world is OVERpopulated, not UNDERpopulated, and legalizing homosexuality and lesbianism everywhere might just SAVE this planet that straight people are DESTROYING.
*
There is no God, so if your only argument is God, you HAVE NO ARGUMENT.
*
Your violent antihomosexual fantasies suggest you need to be confined in a mental institution and subjected to, for instance, electroshock therapy to rid you of your extreme anxieties about homosexuality, and your baseless hatred for people who have never done you any harm. As for your bestelling novel, the "Bible", it is nothing but fiction. And if the Bible is your only argument, YOU HAVE NO ARGUMENT.
*
Hurricane/Superstorm Sandy was a judgment of God? Against millions and millions of people of all sorts of religions? How about all those tornadoes that strike trailer parks in redneck country and kill YOUR people? Are they judgments of God too? There is something very wrong with someone who wants to believe in a Monster God.
*
You are completely ignorant, as your remark about all gay relationships being role-structured proves beyond contention. NO, THEY ARE NOT! Well-adjusted gay men REFUSE imitation heterosexuality and REJECT role-playing. You know NOTHING but what you read from other bigots, and your "statistics" are fabrications. How do we know? Because nobody knows who is and is not homosexual. The Census asks no such question, so all "studies" are fictitious.
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She wants the Govt to take no more than it would take if she were the widow of a MAN.
*
Pls prove the existence of God. Then prove the existence of hell. Then prove that you know who will and will not go to hell for which offenses. You are living a life of delusion. Seek professional help.
*
She is willing to pay whatever a widow of a MAN would pay, and not one cent more. You have a problem with that because you are a bigot. Tuf on you.
*
There are straight drama queens and gay drama queens. There is absolutely no relationship between a flair for or concern with drama or theater, and homosexuality or lesbianism. Pls rid yourself of your stereotypes and learn to embrace the REAL world.
*
AIDS is not a disease. Govt keeps talking about HIV, which is NOT AIDS and follows different paths and has different characteristics on different continents, so is not a disease.
*
Your argument is called "reductio ad absurdum". It is called "absurd[um]" because it is ridiculous. That YOU may not be able to draw distinctions and make sensible laws does not mean that society is as inadequate as you are.
*
Nonsense. If she had to pay that much, then there is surely MUCH more that she does NOT have to pay. She has plenty of money. What she does not have is the rights of a widow, and that is what she wants.
*
We will hide our sexual orientation if straight people will also hide theirs and we never have to see them kissing or holding hands on the street or on TV or in the movies. BUT if hets won't hide, we won't either. You don't like that? Well, isn't that sad for you?!
*
This story is about marital rights, not tax rates. But let's talk a bit about tax FAIRNESS, something that plainly doesn't concern you. You would have the poor pay the same rate as the rich. That is called "regressive" taxation, and it is an unalloyed EVIL, a moral disgrace. You should be ashamed of yourself.
*
Strange how "conservatives" repudiate THAT part of the Declaration of Independence ["pursuit of happiness"], isn't it?
*
Stop making up fake "facts". NONE of those people [Hitler, Mussolini, and Tojo] was gay.
*
Gay people do NOT shove anybody's face in anything. How many homosexual kisses do you see on television and in movies and on the street? How many heterosexual very-public displays of affection? Who is shoving WHOSE face in WHAT?
*
No, you are not [discriminated against for being a "white, middle-class, hetrosexual, married male"], and everybody knows you are not, so why are you exposing yourself as a liar? People whose lies are manifest but continue to lie are called "pathological".
*
You are a psychotic anarchist if you really think government does not have the right to tax. Anarchists are very dangerous, and should be watched. Pls post your full name and address so the FBI and Homeland Security can keep tabs on you.
*
You are not the arbiter of sin.
*
If a straight civil union can be called "marriage", then so can a gay civil union or lesbian civil union. If it walks like a duck ... There is NOTHING destructive about calls for gay marriage, any more than there was in calls to extend the vote to blacks.
*
Keep your bearded-man-in-the-sky nonsense to yourself. There IS NO GOD.
*
True Christians believe one thing above all others. It is usually, in English, phrased as "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." Think about it. Really THINK about it, and you will see that homosexuals are the only people who follow that to the letter.
